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Tēma: Spirts kā degviela
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edzulis  | |  Kopš: 13. May 2002
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 56481
Braucu ar: S212, 911TT, 951, 635csi, NSX, Tillotson t4
| Uzņēmīgais un praktiskais latvietis vulgaris nav domājis par spirta dzīšanu degvielai? Vienīgās izmaksas būtu aparāts + gāze/elektrība/malka  sildīšanai un visticamāk cukurbietes vai kartupeļi + paša darbs. Brazīlijā tā vien tik braukā. Noteikti kāds laucinieks šitā jau dara, kam ir pieeja veciem kartupeļiem vai citiem izejmateriāliem? tāds vidējs aparāts savus 100l nedēļā vēsi saražotu.
Topiks tīri intereses pēc, neba taisos dzīt, taču, iespējams, tā ir nākotne  Bet nu doma, ka visādi šeihi un spekulanti nezin mēra sajūtu pērkot pa 100 ferrari un rīkojot savā tuksnesī PČ futbolā par daudz miljardien neliek mieru, jādod taču pretspars [ Šo ziņu laboja edzulis, 06 Jan 2011, 10:37:54 ] |  Offline | | |
| Schutzstaffel | |  Kopš: 16. May 2005
No: Jūrmala
Ziņojumi: 5087
Braucu ar: FR-888, MV Agusta, TF2747BV
| Ar nepacietību gaidu sekoju līdzi | | Offline | | |
| edzulis | | Kopš: 13. May 2002
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 56481
Braucu ar: S212, 911TT, 951, 635csi, NSX, Tillotson t4
| Davai bez sūda, ok Pietiks piekakāt visas malas. Pēdējo reizi brīdinu | | Offline | | |
| raivisp | |  Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8619
Braucu ar: to kas pagalmā mētājas
| Nav tā, ka jaunākiem un gudrākiem motoriem no spirta ir  un :tolmets: | | Offline | | |
SteelRat  | |  Kopš: 11. Dec 2002
Ziņojumi: 163799
Braucu ar: E95
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06 Jan 2011, 10:40:23 edzulis rakstīja:
Davai bez sūda, ok Pietiks piekakāt visas malas. Pēdējo reizi brīdinu
nu davai, bez suda parekini izmaksas apartuurai, telpaam, izejvielaam, transporta izdevumiem taalaak auto parbuuve, un galu galaaa tas ir loti nelegaali  taka ideja ir diezgan utopiska 
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| edzulis | | Kopš: 13. May 2002
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 56481
Braucu ar: S212, 911TT, 951, 635csi, NSX, Tillotson t4
| DAvai spečuki savu viedokli. Pāris labus un pamatotus viedokļus jau esmu dzirdējis. Interesē vēl. | | Offline | | |
Redliner  | |  Kopš: 05. May 2004
Ziņojumi: 4327
Braucu ar: Cadillac
| Varu piedāvāt dzenamos aparātu, elekriskos, uz gāzes, ar digitālajiem temperatūras rādītājiem utt. | | Offline | | |
| divkosigais | |  Kopš: 15. Feb 2010
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 6488
Braucu ar:
| Krievijā interesanta diskusija bija par šito.
spirts kaa degviela. | | Offline | | |
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| edzulis | | Kopš: 13. May 2002
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 56481
Braucu ar: S212, 911TT, 951, 635csi, NSX, Tillotson t4
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06 Jan 2011, 10:44:10 SteelRat rakstīja:
nu davai, bez suda parekini izmaksas apartuurai, telpaam, izejvielaam, transporta izdevumiem taalaak auto parbuuve, un galu galaaa tas ir loti nelegaali taka ideja ir diezgan utopiska
Esmu parēķinājis un nekas utopisks tas nav, ja vien rociņas neaug no pakaļas un rokas darba nebīstās. Auto pārbūve arī ir simboliska. Jagram teiksim raķete iet gan uz benzīnu, gan spirtu.
Vēlreiz saku, ka neplānoju neko tādu, bet ir interse tīri zinātniska/ekonomiska. [ Šo ziņu laboja edzulis, 06 Jan 2011, 10:50:04 ] | | Offline | | |
| raivisp | | Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8619
Braucu ar: to kas pagalmā mētājas
| reku var sākt skatīties pamācības | | Offline | | |
| hronists | |  Kopš: 01. Sep 2008
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 14820
Braucu ar: Svensk hjul
| holy fuck - spirtu par degvielu? Atgādina frāzi no šurika piedzīvojumiem:
разбить поллитра???
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| romizz | |  Kopš: 27. Jan 2008
No: Madona
Ziņojumi: 4287
Braucu ar: VAG
| Ar spirtu tāpat kā ar gāzi, ka varbūt arī pagaidām tas ir salīdzinoši lētāk un izdevīgāk, bet tiklīdz pēc tādas degvielas būs pieprasījums, cena, vai izmaksas, lai tādu degvielu iegūtu, uzkāps benzīna/dīzeļa līmenī, maybe pat augstāk... Tapēc pagaidām, kamēr tas nav plaša patēriņa produkts, tas ir lētāks, jo nav problēmu ar ierobežotiem resursiem/piegādātājiem... | | Offline | | |
| k-k | |  Kopš: 21. Aug 2008
No: Zilupe
Ziņojumi: 161
Braucu ar: G34 Gen 5, G31 '21
| Vēl pētīju biodiesel UK gatavu jaukšanas & sintezēšanas sistēmu pa ~ 1500 poundiem var iegādāties.
Vēl esmu dzirdējis par gāzes raž. iekārtām, kuras gāzi veido no komposta. Esot LV pāris saimniecības, kas tā brauc. aptuveni 80-100 litru balons 24H ir gatavs.
Nezinu ne jaudas, ne izmantotās iekārtas.
Labprāt paklausīšos viedokļos.  | | Offline | | |
| mc | |  Kopš: 11. Apr 2009
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 48014
Braucu ar: lēnu žurciņu
| romizz runa jau iet par to ka edzulis grib pagrabaa pats no laukos nospertiem labumiem tecinaat. starp citu kautkur lasiiju ka latgale viens onkulis no kuutsmeesliem dzen spirtu.
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| raivisp | | Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8619
Braucu ar: to kas pagalmā mētājas
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06 Jan 2011, 10:56:38 mcgh rakstīja:
romizz runa jau iet par to ka edzulis grib pagrabaa pats no laukos nospertiem labumiem tecinaat. starp citu kautkur lasiiju ka latgale viens onkulis no kuutsmeesliem dzen spirtu.
tak spirtu no jebkā kas pūst var dzīt. Kaut no veca opeļa | | Offline | | |
| edzulis | | Kopš: 13. May 2002
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 56481
Braucu ar: S212, 911TT, 951, 635csi, NSX, Tillotson t4
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06 Jan 2011, 10:56:38 mcgh rakstīja:
starp citu kautkur lasiiju ka latgale viens onkulis no kuutsmeesliem dzen spirtu.
Smaka varētu būt laba 
Kas tur ar to kompostgāzi? Nekas nav dzirdēts.. | | Offline | | |
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| fubuz | |  Kopš: 19. Dec 2003
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 5138
Braucu ar: trafic
| cik vispār maksā spirts litrā/tonnā?
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Puxxx  | |  Kopš: 01. Jul 2005
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 4203
Braucu ar: 840i, e61 LCI, 740d, 328is, 344TT, M3 Sport Evolution - e30: M5 e39 ; GANG BANG bus 5.7l
| un kas mashiinai vajadziigs lai kusteetu uz priekshu??
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Happy Drift Friends
RJ Motorsports - Auto remonts - nebūs pa kapeikām, bet sataisīsim pa rubli! | | Offline | | |
| fubuz | | Kopš: 19. Dec 2003
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 5138
Braucu ar: trafic
| un cik tāds, kas derētu mašīnai, lai viņa normāli kustētos?
vai arī tas pats? | | Offline | | |
Dzvile  
| |  Kopš: 19. Dec 2005
Ziņojumi: 5863
Braucu ar: Čupu ar lūžņiem un diviem BMW.
| Brazil’s Finance Minister has urged Britain to embrace ethanol, the petrol alternative made from sugar, as his nation attempts to use its growing agricultural might to power cars worldwide.
Guido Mantega told The Times that Brazil, the world’s largest supplier of ethanol, wanted to develop partnerships with British companies to bring the biofuel to the UK, as part of the fight against global warming.
Brazil, regarded by Goldman Sachs as one of the four emerging giant economies of the next 50 years, encapsulates both the challenge and the opportunities of climate change. The destruction of its rainforest, at the rate of 31,000sq km (12,000sq miles) a year, is one of the biggest causes of carbon emissions.
However, the country also leads the world in the use of low-emission fuel, which its scientists have spent 30 years refining from domestically grown sugar cane. Thanks to its tropical climate and a decision in the 1970s to become self-sufficient in energy, ethanol is widely available at the pump and has replaced about 40 per cent of petrol consumption.
Mr Mantega, on his first visit to London since becoming Finance Minister last year, said that Brazil hoped to double its exports of ethanol to meet growing international demand. Exports are set to rise from $600 million in 2005 to $1.3 billion in 2010, largely thanks to agreements signed with Japan and Sweden that he said could be models for Britain.
“We would like the majority of countries to adopt these alternative sources of energy and fuel,” he said. “In the UK . . . it’s possible to give more importance to ethanol. We can develop joint projects in such a way that we can introduce these alternative energy sources into regular consumption here.”
Farmers in the US produce ethanol from maize, which costs more to convert into fuel than sugar. But the farmers’ political clout has kept consumers insulated from Brazil’s cheaper product by steep tariffs.
Mr Mantega said he hoped that the Doha Round of trade talks could ease the logjam. “Our costs are 50 per cent lower, and the quality of the energy source is higher than the ethanol made from corn [maize] in America. So we can have more cooperation with America if they open the possibility for more imports from Brazil of ethanol and other agricultural products.”
He described President Bush’s proposals to cut farm subsidies by $18 billion over the next five years as “a positive signal towards the right direction”. Lower subsidies would mean that the competition from Brazilian farms would intensify. The country of 180 million already is the world’s largest exporter of beef, poultry, orange juice and coffee.
But the dark side of Brazil’s economic progress has been the deforestation of the Amazon region, which Mr Mantega calls “the lungs of the world”. The Stern Review said that land-use change accounted for 18 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions in 2000, and singled out Brazil as the country with by far the worst level of deforestation.
Mr Mantega said that the challenges of patrolling the Brazilian rainforest, which is about the size of India, were legion. “You can imagine the difficulties that there are for us to avoid deforestation in such an area, and to protect the rainforest from predators, adventurers, gold-diggers and the like,” he said.
He suggested that richer nations contribute. “If other countries want to keep an atmosphere that has less pollution, these countries should help Brazil with material resources, in such a way that we could have much more rigorous surveillance . . . it could be a sort of conservation fee for nature.”
However, he said that Brazil had no specific proposals yet, and would not allow foreign aircraft to patrol the rainforest. Last month President Lula da Silva unveiled plans to boost growth and reduce government debt. The proposal includes modest tax breaks to encourage higher levels of private investment in infrastructure.
But analysts argue that high interest rates and Brazil’s bloated public sector, which takes nearly 40 per cent of GDP in taxes, have kept growth at a long-run average of only 2.5 per cent, at a time when China and India are growing four times as fast. They claim that the plans are too timid.
Mr Mantega rejected the criticism, saying that Brazil was on course to have growth of between 4.5 per cent and 5 per cent in the coming years. “After four years strengthening the fundamentals of the Brazilian economy, reducing inflation and improving our public accounts and fundamentally reducing our external vulnerability, Brazil is ready to have a growth that an emerging country should have,” he said. Brazil, the tenth-biggest economy, could reach the same size as Britain in ten to fifteen years, he said.
“And we do not need to surpass the UK,” he said. “If we get a tie with the UK, that’s fine.”
Raising cane
Brazil is the world’s largest producer and exporter of ethanol, producing 282,000 barrels per day in 2005
2010 production is forecast at 442,000 bpd
Over half of all cars in the country can run on 100 per cent ethanol or an ethanol-petrol mixture
Coimex Trading, a subsidiary of Brazilian conglomerate Grupo Coimex, is the country’s largest producer
Brazil is seeking to increase exports, but faces high tariffs in some markets. In 2005 it exported 7,200 bpd to the US.
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