Tēma: Veselīga dzīve - kā?

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Braucu ar: pumpi uz mežu

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30 Aug 2011, 16:24:53 ROLEXX rakstīja:
Kāds var pakomentēt kko par klenbuterolu (Clenbuterol) lasos netā, bet vieni saka vienu, citi citu. Varbūt kādam praktiska pieredze ir bijusi?

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30 Aug 2011, 18:01:47 SCHNITZEL rakstīja:
Lai ko arī kāds teiktu, clens IR steroīds.

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30 Aug 2011, 17:38:09 daplis rakstīja:

30 Aug 2011, 17:37:12 xjs_4 rakstīja:

30 Aug 2011, 17:15:51 ROLEXX rakstīja:

30 Aug 2011, 16:47:38 Tomzs rakstīja:
Klens? Speķi dzinošais AAS?

EDIT. Tfu, sajaucu ar Trenu

ķipa sportistiem viņš aizliegts. ātri samazina tauku masu ķermenī, bet vienlaicīgi audzē muskuļu masu, dod papildus enerģiju un tā. it kā neesot tik kaitīgs kā tur anaboliķi utt

Peerku to briinumliidzekli ... legaali nelegaali pofig ...

psc, apnika, ka visi par resno tunci saukaa?

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CLENBUTEROL FAQ 1.0 by Nick Bockwinkle


1.What is Clenbuterol and how does it work?
Simply put, Clenbuterol hydrochloride (the full chemical name for Clenbuterol)
is a beta-2-adrenergic agonist, and was initially used to treat asthma in
humans. Other such drugs in this class are albuterol (I believe this is brand
named as Ventolin, the blue inhaler commonly seen), pirbuterol, terbutaline and
salmeterol.

Clenbuterol has two secondary effects that are beneficial to athletes and
bodybuilders. The first is a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it
decreases the rate at which protein is used up in the muscle cells, consequently
causing hypertrophy of muscle cells (with proper training, of course). Clen
accomplishes this by the stimulation of both type 2 and 3 beta-receptors.
3-beta receptors are more abundant in livestock than in humans. This explains
the pronounced anabolic effects on livestock as opposed to humans.

Secondly, Clen has a wonderful thermogenic effect. This is the main reason that
is included in nearly every cutting cycle in some form or fashion. This means
that it slightly raises the body temperature of the person taking it. When the
body's temperature rises it burns fat more productively. When stacked with an
LT-3 hormone such as Cytomel, the body turns into the fiery pits of hell and
burns fat like a stripper scoops up dollar bills on a Friday night.

Clenbuterol is known by the following brand names:
Broncodil, Broncoterol, Cesbron, Clenasma, Clenbuter.Pharmachim, Contrasmina,
Contraspasmina, Monores, Novegam, Oxyflux, Prontovent, Spiropent, Ventolase, and
Ventapulmin It is generally available in 10 - 20 mcg tablets, although syrup,
injectables and "Super Clen" (x20 the normal dosage of normal tabs) are also
somewhat popular.

2. Will Clenbuterol help me if I am on AS?
Yes, particularly at the end of a cycle to keep gains. Bodybuilders use
Clenbuterol after steroid cycles to balance the resulting catabolic phase
following a cycle and to retain strength and muscle mass. Also, as a result of
the higher body temperatures, Clenbuterol magnifies the effect of
anabolic/androgenic steroids taken simultaneously, since the protein processing
is increased. °2


***GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY WARNING*******
(Taken from Clenbuterol.com) "When these agonists bind to beta-2 adrenoceptors,
they activate adenyl cyclase which leads to an increase in the intracellular
concentration of the second messenger cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) and
activation of protein kinase A (PKA). In the tracheobronchial tree, beta-2
agonists, cAMP and PKA inhibit smooth muscle contraction by opening K+ channels
and by down-regulation of myosin light chain kinase activity." °1

In the airways, beta-2 adrenoceptors are not restricted to smooth muscle. They
also occur on epithelium, inflammatory cells, and the vasculature. When
epithelial beta adrenoceptors are activated, cilliary beat frequency increases.
The effect on mucus secretion is less consistent, but the weight of opinion
indicates that beta-2 agonists increase mucocillary clearance. Activation of
beta-2 adrenoceptors on inflammatory cells reduces the release of inflammatory
mediators, and activation of those in vasculature can inhibit the permeability
increase that occurs in inflammation. Thus making it easier to breath.
******* END GEEKY MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY*************

3. Will Clenbuterol help me burn fat?
Hell yes and no. The yes is stated above--Clen is a strong thermogenic. Diet
and cardio are most important in this process (of course), as is a good weight
training regimen. If one keeps a clean diet, does regular cardio (3-4+ times a
week) then Clenbuterol will greatly assist in fat loss. If one sits around the
couch all day, eats empty calories like sugars and simple carbs, Clenbuterol
will be as useful as a sugar pill.


4. What is the recommended dosage for Clenbuterol?
This has become a matter of controversy among the Bodybuilding community. Due
to erroneous assumptions based on livestock dosing based on the types of
receptors that humans and livestock have , 2 days on-2 days off was thought to
be the proper dosage. Given Clenbuterols half-life of about 10 hours, with a
2-days on/2-days off cycle you never have time to get enough of the clenbuterol
out of your system for this to be an effective cycle. In actuality, it probably
hasn't even dropped to 50% of your peak concentration before one is taking the
drug again. With this all taken into account, there is no reason to think that
this cycling would significantly reduce the problem of receptor desensitization.
2-weeks on/2-weeks off is a better cycle, with ECA stacked in between.

At a dosage of around 5-7 tablets or 100-140 mcg per day for men over a period
of 8-10 weeks. In females, dosages of 80-100 mcg/day are usually sufficient.
For fat loss, clenbuterol seems to stay effective for 3-6 weeks, then its
thermogenic properties seem to subside. This is noticed when the body
temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic properties subside much quicker,
somewhere around 18 days. Also keep in mind that anything over 140 mcg a day is
useless since the beta receptors can only handle so much. °


4. Should I taper Clenbuterol on and off?
Yes. With ANY thermogenic, the side effects can be pronounced and a shock to
the system. To lessen these, here is an optimal pill count for a two-week
cycle. (assuming standard Clen dosages of 20mcg such as Spriopent).

Week 1: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Week 2: 6, 6, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2

Weeks 3 and 4: ECA (Hydroxycut, Xenadrine, Stacker, etc.)
The ECA stacks in between will help prevent against the inevitable crash when
taking Clen.


5. What are some of Clenbuterol's side effects?
Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor
(involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia,
possible muscle spasms, increased blood pres-sure, and nausea. Note that these
side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days,
despite continuation of the product.




COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS:

Q: Can I substitute Ventolase or another asthma medication for Clenbuterol since
they are the same category?
A: No. Remember that the only reason the FDA banned Clenbuterol was because of
the long half-life. Well approved asthma medications have very short
half-lives. Therefore, the effective dosage period is very low.


Q: Will Clenbuterol give me gyno, masculinization, shrinkage of the boys or any
steroid-like side effect?
A: No. Clenbuterol has no steroid-like side-effects as the mechanisms are
totally different. This also means that you do not have to take Clomid or any
anti-estrogen during a Clenbuterol cycle.


Q: Will Clenbuterol show up on a drug test?
A: Only if you are being tested by a body that bans it. This is generally
international competition such as the Olympics. Employment, doctors physicals,
military does NOT test for this. The NCAA is reputed not to, however this is
unknown. It is best to get a prescription from a doctor for asthma medication.
Ventolin, Albuterol and the like trigger the same tests as Clenbuterol. With a
doctors prescription for one of these similar products, the Clen will be seen
as a false positive.


Q: I've read that the best way to gauge Clenbuterol's effectiveness is to watch
for a rise in temperature. Is this true?
A: Although this will show when Clenbuterol is working, it is not the best way
to gauge effective dosage, as everyone's body will react differently. This
reaction is sometimes independent of an effective dosage and is not a good way
to gauge if your current dose is effective. The above cycle is based on a
175-lb man. If you are below that, you may want to slightly decrease the dosage
if you find the shakes to be unbearable after 4-5 days.

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31 Aug 2011, 23:04:18 Statement rakstīja:

29 Aug 2011, 12:40:16 VMR rakstīja:
Pļac, ko var darīt ar 50 kg hanteli?

Piemēram "hanteles vilkšanā pie sāna ar vienu roku", tipa spārniem... tur parasti lieli cipari iet. Visādi Colemani gan jau kā spiež arī uz grudaka,bet nu es pa mirstīgajiem cilvēkiem

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31 Aug 2011, 23:06:23 Statement rakstīja:

31 Aug 2011, 23:04:18 Statement rakstīja:

29 Aug 2011, 12:40:16 VMR rakstīja:
Pļac, ko var darīt ar 50 kg hanteli?

Piemēram "hanteles vilkšanā pie sāna ar vienu roku", tipa spārniem... tur parasti lieli cipari iet. Visādi Colemani gan jau kā spiež arī uz grudaka,bet nu es pa mirstīgajiem cilvēkiem

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[ Šo ziņu laboja archers330, 02 Sep 2011, 21:33:03 ]

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02 Sep 2011, 21:32:37 archers330 rakstīja:
vajag palietot vitamīnus, ko iesakat? labāk kompleksos.
ko sakat par SPApak?

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02 Sep 2011, 21:34:29 Es10 rakstīja:

02 Sep 2011, 21:32:37 archers330 rakstīja:
vajag palietot vitamīnus, ko iesakat? labāk kompleksos.
ko sakat par SPApak?

Controlled Labs: Orange Triad

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02 Sep 2011, 21:34:29 Es10 rakstīja:

02 Sep 2011, 21:32:37 archers330 rakstīja:
vajag palietot vitamīnus, ko iesakat? labāk kompleksos.
ko sakat par SPApak?

Controlled Labs: Orange Triad

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02 Sep 2011, 21:40:32 archers330 rakstīja:

02 Sep 2011, 21:34:29 Es10 rakstīja:

02 Sep 2011, 21:32:37 archers330 rakstīja:
vajag palietot vitamīnus, ko iesakat? labāk kompleksos.
ko sakat par SPApak?

Controlled Labs: Orange Triad

kur var iegadaties?

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06 Sep 2011, 11:47:18 Jureks rakstīja:
Es parasti pirmstreniņa 10min, bet ar kadiem 2x 2min sprintinju uz max cik tas celiņš iet.. lai sirdij biskii iedod iekšā

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06 Sep 2011, 11:50:54 Kalnz rakstīja:

06 Sep 2011, 11:47:18 Jureks rakstīja:
Es parasti pirmstreniņa 10min, bet ar kadiem 2x 2min sprintinju uz max cik tas celiņš iet.. lai sirdij biskii iedod iekšā

a cik viņš max iet? nekas neesmu mēģinājis - bail

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06 Sep 2011, 11:54:35 Jureks rakstīja:

06 Sep 2011, 11:50:54 Kalnz rakstīja:

06 Sep 2011, 11:47:18 Jureks rakstīja:
Es parasti pirmstreniņa 10min, bet ar kadiem 2x 2min sprintinju uz max cik tas celiņš iet.. lai sirdij biskii iedod iekšā

a cik viņš max iet? nekas neesmu mēģinājis - bail

es nemaz nezinu spiežu + līdz galam.. man liekas ka cipari uz viena skrejceliņa bija 18 uz vienu citu pari pa 20.. baigi neiedziļinos