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24 Aug 2024, 11:07:45 @Rockstar rakstīja:
Vai kāds var paskaidrot kādēļ Ru vēl nav izšāvusi kodolieročus?
Kura būtu tā sarkanā līnija, lai nospiestu sarkano podziņu???
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24 Aug 2024, 11:07:45 @Rockstar rakstīja:
Vai kāds var paskaidrot kādēļ Ru vēl nav izšāvusi kodolieročus?
Kura būtu tā sarkanā līnija, lai nospiestu sarkano podziņu???
Nekas nav elastīgāks par viņu sarkanajām līnijām
Varbūt nemaz nav nekādu kodolieroču…blefo
Nu nevajag uzskatīt ka vatastānā visa varas vertikāle ir galvā pista. Tā nu gluži nav. Neviens nav gatavs atvērt pandoras lādi ar nezināmām sekām. Tad vairàk no Kima to var sagaidīt. Taču pat viņš ar senci nebija tik stulbi. Protams, kad kodolieroči vatei ir. Paziñojumi, ieroču žvadzinàšana utt ir viens. Tas ir sava veida šovs. Realitātē tur neviens tik stulbs nav. Kà teikt. Internets ir internets un dzīve ir dzīve.
Powerà interneta faitos tiek sistas mātes. Ar zobenu izrautas sirdis un skapji.
Taču realitātē visi kopā iesmeł alu, parunājas līdz atkal satiekas intenetā. [ Šo ziņu laboja Lafter, 24 Aug 2024, 12:13:29 ]
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| Ukrainas virzība kurskā - video vates. Bet par pārsteigumu samērā objektîvs.
Kurskas apgabals. Tikai viena nianse. Ukraiņu vēl nav tur
Lielākā patriota, desantnieka neticamie stāsti
Ap to laiku bļāva/ viss pisgec! Zelenskis ir uzupurators un vajag slēgt mieru. Bet prieks, kad Ukraiņi komentāros izpaužas. Atgriežoties viņš mazākai pa purnu dabūs un misenē atgulsies. - tas bija citāts
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24 Aug 2024, 13:52:13 @Corey rakstīja:
Interesanta lasāmviela. Daudz iemeslu,kāpēc baigi neraujas spiest to pogu.
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24 Aug 2024, 19:36:21 @CP17 rakstīja:
Tad juridiski ir karš vai nav? No 5min
https://xtv.lv/rigatv24/video/B37JYmRWNPz-24_08...ru_rajevu_1_dala
Ir.
Ukrainai ir Vojenij Stan. Jeb karastāvoklis. Nu var jau būt, kad Zelenskis un rada kaut ko pīpē Tavā izpratnē, vai kāda cita. Var to saukt par ezi, ozolu vai nekara stāvokli, apgriezto stāvokli- kā jums ērtāk. Taču Ukrainà ir kara stāvoklis. Kuru nesen pagarināja. Tik vienkārši. Diskusija ir apmēram no tēmas- Tu tādi un saki sarkans. Anglis saka nehuja- red.
Nē- sarkans..
Nē- red..
Būtība nemainàs. Nav starptautiska kara vai krīzes stāvokļa noteikumi. Rīcība ir atrunàta katras valsts konstitūcijā un normatīvajos aktos. Atver radas lapu un paskaties. Kopš kura brīža Tu, Rajevs un vèl kàds lemj kas ir Ukrainā un kas nav?
Viņiem ir vojenij stan. Un viñiem dziļi pohuj- Tev tas ir zirgs, ozols vai bezkara stāvoklis.
Воєнний стан — це особливий стан, порядок управління, що запроваджується на всій території держави чи в окремих її місцевостях у разі оголошення війни, збройної агресії або загрози війни, нападу.
Cik var malt vienu un to pašu
Военное положение (воєнний стан) на Украине — особый правовой режим, который вводится по всей стране или в отдельных её местностях в условиях вооружённой агрессии[a] или угрозы вооружённого нападения, возникновения опасности для государственной независимости, суверенитета, территориальной целостности и неприкосновенности территории Украины. Оно вводится президентом Украины по предложению Совета национальной безопасности и обороны Украины и утверждается Верховной Радой Украины[2].
Kas tieši raisa jautājumus? Tieši kas?
Radas akti. [ Šo ziņu laboja Lafter, 24 Aug 2024, 19:53:49 ]
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24 Aug 2024, 20:00:24 @CP17 rakstīja:
Atkal es par māti, tu par meitu
Nav mātes un meitas.
Ir katras valsts normatīvie akti un likumi.
Tas nav mans viedoklis- ar mani tam nav nekāda sakara. Es ieliku linku uz Radas lēmumiem un skaidrojumu.
Jebkurš var ielikt Ukrainas valdības, prezidenta lēmumu, kas apgalvo pretējo. Es sludināšu to. Fakts ir fakts.
Diskusija par pretējo- kāds teica! Un? Kāda starpība ko, kurš saka. Kamēr radā stāv pretējais. Tik vienkàrši.
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| Es gan ar bravūru un izteikumiem būtu piezemētāks. Bet nu ir uz viļņa, gan tauta, gan pārējiem.Tāds cerību stars un ticība atkal atgriezusies.Bet šī jau ir ņirgāšanās par putinu
Tur grūti saprast-
Duda lūgs Zelenski nenogalināt Krievijas karavīrus, kuri bēgs/ atgriezīsies mājās. Utt no Ukrainas armija.
Viņš apsolīja piezvanīt Zelenskim ar šādu lūgumu. Uz ko Zelenskis atbildēja-
Viņa telefons ticamākais tajā brīdī varētu būt aizņemts.
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| Zelenskis paziņojis par pirmo raķetes/drona "Паляниця" pielietojumu un mērķa iznīcināšanu.
KAS BĻEĢ TUR IEKŠĀ
P.s
Pats drons
Karma ieradās nekavējoties
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| Mapping Ukraine’s Surprise Invasion of Russia
By Josh Holder Aug. 23, 2024
After two and a half years of fighting a war on their own soil, Ukrainian forces are continuing to advance within Russia, as their surprise invasion of the Kursk region enters its third week.
Beginning early on Aug. 6, Ukraine quickly broke through thinly manned border defenses and has now captured dozens of Russian towns and villages, adding a new twist to a war that had largely settled into grueling, block-by-block fighting in towns in eastern Ukraine.
Ukraine’s incursion into Kursk brought about one of the largest territorial changes since the first month of the war, when Russia rapidly advanced toward major Ukrainian cities. The head of Ukraine’s armed forces, Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky, has claimed that Ukraine is in control of about 490 square miles of Russian territory.
If confirmed, that would represent roughly the same amount of land that Russian forces seized in Ukraine from January through July of this year, according to the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank.
President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine has said that the aim is to create a “buffer zone” inside Russia alongside the border. He has given no specifics about the size of the area his military is aiming to seize.
This week, Ukraine struck bridges across the Seym River, a move that military analysts say could trap Russian troops between the river and the border with Ukraine.
At least three bridges have been damaged, which The Times was able to independently verify through satellite imagery and videos posted to social media.
It is unclear how many Russian troops are in the area, but satellite imagery from Planet Labs, a commercial satellite company, shows that Russia has built temporary pontoon bridges to allow its vehicles to continue to cross the river. One could be seen east of the town of Glushkovo on Aug. 17, with vehicle tracks visible nearby. Another was visible further along the river, just north of Glushkovo, on Aug. 21.
On Wednesday, Ukraine released videos of its forces striking these Russian pontoon bridges in Kursk with U.S.-supplied weapons.
Although Ukraine’s advances have slowed since the first days of its incursion, it continues to push forward, according to imagery verified by the Institute for the Study of War.
Satellite imagery from Planet Labs shows that Russia has built new defensive fortifications around 20 miles from Ukrainian positions in Kursk, near the E38 highway. The fortifications include trenches for troops to fire from, and anti-tank ditches, such as the one shown below.
While the Ukrainian military is gaining ground in Russia, it is losing it back home. The Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine is building momentum.
Russian troops are less than 10 miles from Pokrovsk, putting them in artillery range of the city, which had a population of about 40,000 before the war began and is a key transport hub. To the northeast, Russian troops are on the doorstep of Toretsk, and control most of Niu-York, footage verified by the Institute for the Study of War shows.
Military analysts say that one of Ukraine’s likely objectives in invading Kursk was to force Russia to divert troops away from eastern Ukraine to fight in Kursk, but so far the Kremlin has resisted. Instead, it has brought in reinforcements mainly from elsewhere in Russia, prioritizing its military objectives in Ukraine over a rapid response to the foreign incursion.
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More than two weeks into its surprise offensive in western Russia, Ukraine’s advance has slowed, with its troops making only marginal gains around territory they already control.
But more than 200 miles to the southeast, another offensive is gaining momentum: Russia’s drive toward Pokrovsk, a stronghold in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region. In recent days, Moscow’s troops have seized at least three settlements and reached the outskirts of a town along a railroad to Pokrovsk, a logistics hub for the Ukrainian Army in the region.
The Russian advance has put the Ukrainians in the precarious position of defending one critical front while attempting to press forward on another, all with limited troop numbers and weaponry. President Volodymyr Zelensky said this week that Ukraine was working on boosting its forces in the east with more men and weapons to resist the Russian advance.
Here’s a look at the overall situation on the battlefield.
Russia pushes toward Pokrovsk
This week, Russian forces have captured three more villages near Pokrovsk, according to DeepState, an analytical group with close ties to the Ukrainian Army, expanding their hold on the area. Moscow’s troops are now about eight miles from the center of Pokrovsk.
“They’re now within artillery range of the city,” Michael Kofman, a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told the military podcast War on the Rocks on Wednesday.
Pokrovsk, a city of more than 40,000 inhabitants, is a transit hub for Ukrainian forces in the east. It sits on a key road, Highway T054, linking several cities that form a defensive arc protecting the part of the Donetsk region that is still held by Ukraine.
“The loss of Pokrovsk would be fairly significant to Ukraine’s ability to maintain defenses overall in Donetsk,” Mr. Kofman said. “Its loss wouldn’t be disastrous but it would have downstream effects for the overall organization of defense.”
A map of the battlefield produced by the Finland-based Black Bird Group, which tracks developments in the conflict, appears to indicate that Russian troops have approached the final line of Ukrainian anti-tank ditches and trenches near the town. They have already breached several defensive layers during their advance, the Black Bird Group said, although these were less densely fortified.
Local Ukrainian authorities have called on Pokrovsk’s residents to evacuate within the next two weeks, before conditions worsen significantly. Families with children have already been ordered to leave. But Serhii Dobriak, the head of Pokrovsk’s military administration, reported that the evacuation pace was not fast enough, with only 500 to 600 people departing daily, though the authorities could bring out at least 1,000 a day.
“People don’t want to evacuate,” Volodymyr Nikulin, a police officer in Pokrovsk, said in a text message. “This is not a surprise. People in these cities used to live in war since 2014. They’ve experienced so many war atrocities. They just hope to survive.”
Niu-York is in peril
To the northeast of Pokrovsk, around the towns of Toretsk and Niu-York, Russian forces have been slowly but steadily gaining ground, sending waves of troops in bloody attacks.
Footage geolocated by the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think tank, shows Moscow’s troops are on the doorstep of Toretsk and now control most of Niu-York, which took its name in the 19th century and is sometimes referred to as New York. A medic from a brigade fighting near Niu-York, speaking on condition of anonymity for security reasons, said this week that Ukrainian soldiers still controlled a small part of the town but were under relentless attacks.
Ukrainian positions in Niu-York and Toretsk protect another city in the defensive arc: Kostiantynivka, about nine miles to the northwest.
Analysts say one aim of Ukraine’s offensive into western Russia has been to force Moscow to divert troops from the eastern front lines. But the Kremlin appears to have largely resisted such a redeployment so far, prioritizing its military effort in the east.
“The Russians have hardly moved any forces from here,” Maksym Zhorin, the deputy commander of the Third Separate Assault Brigade, which is fighting in the east, told Ukrainian media on Wednesday. The Ukrainian offensive in Russia has had little impact on the fighting in the Donetsk region, he said.
Ukraine’s advance in Russia slows
Ukrainian troops made quick gains after they launched their surprise cross-border offensive into Russia’s western Kursk region on Aug. 6, capturing many settlements and the town of Sudzha.
Mr. Zelensky, who said on Thursday that he had visited the Ukrainian side of the border area where his army attacked, has claimed that Ukraine now controls about 480 square miles of Russian territory. If confirmed, that’s roughly the amount of land that Russian forces seized in Ukraine this year up to July, according to the Institute for the Study of War.
But most of these gains were made in the first week of the offensive. Over the past week, Ukraine has only marginally advanced around the bulge of territory it seized, pushing into a few villages.
Analysts say this is because the Ukrainian forces are coming up against reinforcements that Moscow has sent to the area, mainly from units stationed in Russia. Vasyl Halamai, a Ukrainian platoon commander, told Ukrainian television that Russian forces were “significantly increasing artillery fire and the resistance of infantry units has increased.”
Materiel losses for Ukraine in the assault are also mounting. Naalsio, an open-source intelligence researcher analyzing combat footage, said on Wednesday that Ukraine had lost at least 65 pieces of military equipment, including four U.S.-made Stryker armored vehicles, compared with 40 such losses for the Russians.
Constant Méheut reports on the war in Ukraine, including battlefield developments, attacks on civilian centers and how the war is affecting its people. More about Constant Méheut
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24 Aug 2024, 19:36:21 @CP17 rakstīja:
Tad juridiski ir karš vai nav? No 5min
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24 Aug 2024, 20:00:24 @CP17 rakstīja:
Atkal es par māti, tu par meitu
Speciāli noskatījos visu.
Runa bija par KARA PIETEIKŠANU/PASLUDINĀŠANU!
Nevis kara stāvokli- kuru pat studijā atzina.
Nu nav vairs tie laiki kad svinīgi iesoļo sūtnis! Noliek apzīmogotu depešu. Pagriežas un cēli aizslāj. Visur ir visàdas operàcijas. Arī rietumiem
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24 Aug 2024, 11:07:45 @Rockstar rakstīja:
Vai kāds var paskaidrot kādēļ Ru vēl nav izšāvusi kodolieročus?
Kura būtu tā sarkanā līnija, lai nospiestu sarkano podziņu???
Nekas nav elastīgāks par viņu sarkanajām līnijām
Varbūt nemaz nav nekādu kodolieroču…blefo
Tak nav nekadu sarkano līniju ir gaiši brūnās līnijas Dirsēji nekas vairāk Neviens tur neko netaisās šaaut.
Neaizmirstam ka kremļa un ne tikai kremļa deputatiem berni un mazberni dzivo pūstošaja Eiropa un Amerikā 50 reizes jau ka pārkaptas sarkanās linijas tik tupa turpina baidīt.
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Iedomaajamies, tad runaaja oar atomeni, jo tiem bomzhiem saaka siivu pretestiibu izraadiit, a tagad ukr karaspeeks ar NATO tehniku vienkaarshi soljo dziljaak un veido ierakumus vinju smirdiigajaa zemee ... nu riktiigs karaatavu humors | Offline | | |
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