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| Fandulis | | Kopš: 29. Nov 2004
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| Vai tad mums terminālim kāds EU piķi solīja? Elektrība ir EU mēroga projekts. Gāzes vada uz HU tomēr ir lokāla štelle. | | Offline | | |
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24 Jul 2024, 17:10:29 @Samsasi rakstīja:
Vai tad mums terminālim kāds EU piķi solīja? Elektrība ir EU mēroga projekts. Gāzes vada uz HU tomēr ir lokāla štelle.
Prasīja, risināja, bīdīja.
Tie ir stratēģiskie infrastruktūras projekti. Tāpat, kā mūsu gāzes krātuve. Citām valstīm tā paveicies nav. Pēc fakta! Jau 2014 gadā Ungāri tajā laikā sāka domāt. Tika pasūtīti. Jo prostitūtai makrelei bija savi somāļu bērneļi jāvelk iekšā un Nord stream jāaizstāv un jàlobē. Ceļi tranzīta, tilti, toks, dzelzcelš- tie ir stratēgiskie projekti. Ar tiem valstis ir šantažējamas un atkarigas. To arī eiropa zināja un visi pārējie. Es neaizstāvu Orbānu. Taču arī viņam variantu īsti nav. Un nevajag jaukt valdību ar tautu. Ungāri ļoti daudz palīdz Ukrainai. Munīcija, ziedojumi utt. Tāpat Slovēnija. Atmetot emocijas- nevar bakstīt ar pirkstu un bļaut- Es priekšnieks, tu duraks. Pats priekšnieks arī startā sapisās meistarībā. Tur runa bija par pieslēgumu caur Turciju cik atceros. Bet tad bija svarīgākas lietas. Iedurt vēl pāris gāzes adatas vēnàs sev un savilt visus pasaules klaidoņus eiropā. Tā, tajā brīdī izlēma gudrais priekšnieks. Tagad sausais atlikums ir tāds, kāds viņš ir.
Tagad būs caur Itāliju. Sāks 2026 gadā
The pipeline would run from Kozármisleny to Nagykanizsa to Tornyiszentmiklós, Hungary to Lendava to Kidričevo, Slovenia to Ajdovšina to Šempeter, Slovenia, to Gorizia, Italy.
Operator: FGSZ Ltd. (HU), Plinovodi, d.o.o (SI)
Owner: FGSZ Ltd. (HU), Plinovodi, d.o.o (SI)
Parents: MOL Group; Plinovodi
Capacity: 3.4 million cubic meters per day / 1.241 billion cubic meters per year
Length: 191 km[3]
Diameter: 1,200 mm / 47.24 inches[4]
Cost: €519.9 million (US$592.7 million) for three sections of the pipeline; the cost of the Slovenia-Italy interconnection is not known[5]
Status: Proposed[3]
Start Year: 2026[6]
Un kur bijàt agrāk?? Te nu visiem vajag nokaunēties.  arî ,,priekšniekam,,
Noleks no gāzes - Ungārija uzreiz izmainīsies politiski. Olas lielu zem naža ķīlā.[ Šo ziņu laboja Lafter, 24 Jul 2024, 17:53:25 ]
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| Arvien vairāk no ietekmīgiem politiķiem dzirdama frāze/iestarpinājums "neatkarīgi no Ukrainas kara rezultāta...."
Sāk šķist, ka reāli, UA jau ir "norakstīta", tūlīt tiks piespiesta sēsties pie sarunu galda uz rusņas nosacījumiem. | | Offline | | |
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24 Jul 2024, 17:52:28 @HE9600 rakstīja:
Arvien vairāk no ietekmīgiem politiķiem dzirdama frāze/iestarpinājums "neatkarīgi no Ukrainas kara rezultāta...."
Sāk šķist, ka reāli, UA jau ir "norakstīta", tūlīt tiks piespiesta sēsties pie sarunu galda uz rusņas nosacījumiem.
Nu… Kuleba vizītē skaidri pateica. Esam gatavi runāt par mieru. Ko tur norakstīt? Variantu jau nav pa lielam. Tikai- ko tālāk ar to visu. Tāds jautājums retorisks.
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24 Jul 2024, 17:48:56 @Lafter rakstīja:
Jo prostitūtai makrelei bija savi somāļu bērneļi jāvelk iekšā un Nord stream jāaizstāv un jàlobē.
Amen!
Reku, īsais kurss.
"Merkel continued her education at Karl Marx University, Leipzig, where she studied physics from 1973 to 1978.[28] While a student, she participated in the reconstruction of the ruin of the Moritzbastei, a project students initiated to create their own club and recreation facility on campus. Such an initiative was unprecedented in the GDR of that period, and initially resisted by the university. With backing of the local leadership of the SED party, the project was allowed to proceed.[36]
Near the end of her studies, Merkel sought an assistant professorship at an engineering school. As a condition for getting the job, Merkel was told she would need to agree to report on her colleagues to officers of the Stasi. Merkel declined, using the excuse that she could not keep secrets well enough to be an effective spy.[37]
Merkel worked and studied at the Central Institute for Physical Chemistry of the Academy of Sciences in Berlin-Adlershof from 1978 to 1990. At first, she and her husband squatted in Mitte.[38] At the Academy of Sciences, she became a member of its FDJ secretariat. According to her former colleagues, she openly propagated Marxism as the secretary for "Agitation and Propaganda".[39] However, Merkel has denied this claim and stated that she was secretary for culture, which involved activities like obtaining theatre tickets and organising talks by visiting Soviet authors.[40] She stated: "I can only rely on my memory, if something turns out to be different, I can live with that."[39]
After being awarded a doctorate (Dr. rer. nat.) for her thesis on quantum chemistry in 1986,[41] she worked as a researcher and published several academic papers.[42][43] In 1986, she was able to travel freely to West Germany to attend a congress; she also participated in a multi-week language course in Donetsk, in the then-Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.[44] " | | Offline | | |
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| Vispār jau ungāriem kopš 2014.gada par to bija aktīvi jādomā. Bet visiem bija uzmīzt. Kā arī @Lafter vai Tavuprāt ungāru neveiksmēs varētu būt vainojams pidars Orbāns? 
Koroč, ko sēsi to pļausi. Rietumeiropu ungāri negrib, Putina līko aiz vaiga tā uzreiz paņemt arī kaut kā neērti, varbūt kaut kāda senāka savienība ar Austriju jāatjauno? | | Offline | | |
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24 Jul 2024, 18:33:26 @abyss rakstīja:
Vispār jau ungāriem kopš 2014.gada par to bija aktīvi jādomā. Bet visiem bija uzmīzt. Kā arī @Lafter vai Tavuprāt ungāru neveiksmēs varētu būt vainojams pidars Orbāns?
Koroč, ko sēsi to pļausi. Rietumeiropu ungāri negrib, Putina līko aiz vaiga tā uzreiz paņemt arī kaut kā neērti, varbūt kaut kāda senāka savienība ar Austriju jāatjauno?
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| Nu pag, pasaulei vajadzēja 8 gadus un karu, lai viņi saprastu kautko.... Nevajag te par 2014, 2022. Būs pietiekami | | Offline | | |
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| Man liekās Ukrainai nevajadzēja bloķēt tranzītu, bet palūgt, lai ungāru desai uzliek soda sankcijas tādā pašā apmērā, kādā viņi maksā ruslandei par gāzi. | | Offline | | |
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24 Jul 2024, 18:33:26 @abyss rakstīja:
Vispār jau ungāriem kopš 2014.gada par to bija aktīvi jādomā. Bet visiem bija uzmīzt. Kā arī @Lafter vai Tavuprāt ungāru neveiksmēs varētu būt vainojams pidars Orbāns?
Koroč, ko sēsi to pļausi. Rietumeiropu ungāri negrib, Putina līko aiz vaiga tā uzreiz paņemt arī kaut kā neērti, varbūt kaut kāda senāka savienība ar Austriju jāatjauno?
Bet viņi to centās darīt. Tā pati šveice ir sūrāki vateņi par ungāriem. Tikai šveicei paveicies ar novietojumu. Esi aizmirsis usa un ger kašķi par tām trubām.
Smaciņa nāca no makreles ar bandu. Cīnījās pretī nenoguruši. Es par 80% esmu pārlicināys, kad ar jenķu svētību tās trubas arī Ukraina uzlaida gaisā. Jo saprata, ka tad lobijs ir pārāk liels no fričiem.
Nav trubu- nav problèmu
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| Īsti Ičkērijas čaļi, kā vienmēr līmenī  normāli partizānī pa vates aizmuguri 
Kāds to gūstekni manīja kolonā, kad viñi atpakaļ gāja? es nē 
Kaut kāds fucking terminators  
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| Interview ‘I know we will win – and how’: Ukraine’s top general on turning the tables against Russia
Sitting on a stack of ammunition crates at a secret military base, Col Gen Oleksandr Syrskyi was tight-lipped about when Ukraine will receive a long-awaited delivery of F-16 fighter jets. The Dutch and other allies have said they will arrive soon. This week? Or maybe August? “I know. But I can’t tell you about it, unfortunately,” he said, with an apologetic grin, as gulls squawked nearby.Syrskyi is Ukraine’s new commander-in-chief. His unenviable task is to defeat a bigger Russian army. Two and half years into Vladimir Putin’s full-scale onslaught, he acknowledges the Russians are much better resourced. They have more of everything: tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, soldiers. Their original 100,000-strong invasion force has grown to 520,000, he said, with a goal by the end of 2024 of 690,000 men. The figures for Ukraine have not been made public.
“When it comes to equipment, there is a ratio of 1:2 or 1:3 in their favour,” he said. Since 2022 the number of Russian tanks has “doubled” – from 1,700 to 3,500. Artillery systems have tripled, and armoured personnel carriers gone up from 4,500 to 8,900. “The enemy has a significant advantage in force and resources,” Syrskyi said. “Therefore, for us, the issue of supply, the issue of quality, is really at the forefront.”
It is this man and machine superiority that explains recent events on the battlefield. Since last autumn Ukraine’s armed forces have been going steadily backwards. One of his first acts when he got the job in February 2024 – replacing Valerii Zaluzhnyi, now Ukraine’s ambassador to the UK – was to order the withdrawal of his troops from the eastern city of Avdiivka. The retreat coincided with a six-month gap in the US supply of weapons.More have recently arrived. The Russians, however, are still seizing fields and villages in the eastern Donbas, using airdropped bombs to blast a path forward. They have gobbled up territory north-west of Avdiivka, towards the garrison town of Pokrovsk, and besieged the hilltop settlement of Chasiv Yar. In May Russian forces opened a new front in the Kharkiv region, storming the city of Vovchansk. Ukraine anticipated this attack. Seemingly it couldn’t stop it.
In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, his first with a foreign newspaper as overall military chief, Syrskyi admitted things were “very difficult”. “The Russian aggressor attacks our positions in many directions,” he said. Could Russia’s advance be halted? “Yes, of course. First of all, it depends on our brave soldiers, our officers,” he said. Quite frequently “resilient and heroic” Ukrainian units defeated bigger enemy groups, he said.
By way of example, he cited Russia’s latest attempt to seize Kharkiv and the neighbouring province of Sumy. “It failed,” Syrskyi said. Fighting continued but he said Putin’s attempt to create a “so-called security corridor” next to Russia’s border and Belgorod region had been thwarted. What about rumours Moscow was planning another assault in the southern Zaporizhia region? If it happens “we can give them a good response”, he replied.Overall, Syrskyi sought to put recent setbacks in context. He described Russia’s creeping victories as “tactical” ones – local gains rather than an “operational” breakthrough, such as the capture of a major city. “In principle, the enemy has not made any significant progress,” he said. The frontline, he added, was 3,700km long. Active hostilities were taking place across “977km” of it, or “twice the length of the border between Germany and France”.
Russia’s successes, meanwhile, came at a staggering human cost. The Kremlin’s casualties were “three times” higher than Ukraine’s, and “even more” in certain directions, Syrskyi said. “Their number of killed is much bigger,” he emphasised. In February Volodymyr Zelenskiy said 31,000 Ukrainian service personnel had died since 2022. Could Syrskyi update this figure? He declined, saying losses were “sensitive” and a topic Moscow could exploit.
Syrskyi contrasted his battlefield tactics with those used by Russian commanders, who are known for sacrificing huge numbers of infantry troops to gain “100 to 200 metres”. “It’s very important for us to save the lives of our soldiers. We don’t defend ruins to the death,” Syrskyi said. He said he was not willing to “achieve goals at any cost”, or to chuck his men into “futile meat assaults”. Sometimes it was necessary to move to “more favourable positions”.
Amid scepticism about Ukraine’s prospect of achieving outright victory, Syrskyi noted various positive developments. F-16s would strengthen Ukraine’s air defences. They would allow Kyiv to work more effectively against Russian cruise missiles and to hit ground targets accurately. However, there were limits to what F-16s might achieve, he stressed. They had to remain “40km or more” from the frontline because of the risk Moscow would shoot them down.Russia had “superior aviation” and “very strong” air defences. Because of this Ukraine was increasingly turning to unmanned aerial systems, Syrskyi said. It used drones “very effectively” and was trying out “robotic ground systems” – land robots that could deliver ammunition or rescue a wounded soldier. There was a new unmanned systems command, the first of its kind. “We fight not by quantity but quality,” he said, adding that drones played “as big a role as artillery”Russia had “superior aviation” and “very strong” air defences. Because of this Ukraine was increasingly turning to unmanned aerial systems, Syrskyi said. It used drones “very effectively” and was trying out “robotic ground systems” – land robots that could deliver ammunition or rescue a wounded soldier. There was a new unmanned systems command, the first of its kind. “We fight not by quantity but quality,” he said, adding that drones played “as big a role as artillery”Aged 58, Syrskyi was born in Vladimir, a city outside Moscow, in what was then the Soviet Union. Since the 1990s he has served in Ukraine’s armed forces. Critics accuse him of Soviet military thinking. Supporters describe him as a disciplined and talented commander who – in contrast to his charismatic predecessor, Zaluzhnyi – is often on the frontline. In February 2022, as head of ground forces, he led the defence of Kyiv. Zelenskiy made him a hero of Ukraine and six months ago promoted him to commander-in-chief.Close up, Syrskyi is warm and personable. His handshake is suitably iron. Meeting Syrskyi involved cloak-and-dagger arrangements and a mysterious ride in a van. The Kremlin, you imagine, is keen to kill him. Aides built a small stage for his rare media appearance, with a camouflage netting backdrop.
Like many serving soldiers he sees his family rarely. “They suffer without me, so it’s maybe it’s an issue for me too,” he said. “But I know that we will win. I know how I have to do it. And I’m sure that we will do it.” The general says he doesn’t sleep “many hours”. In rare moments off he read books on Ukrainian history, in order to understand past “processes”. “We have brave people and a difficult history,” he observed.
One of Syrskyi’s most pressing challenges is to find new recruits to replace Ukrainian soldiers who have been killed and injured. Those fighting in trenches are exhausted. The patriotic fervour that led many in spring 2022 to volunteer has worn off. The government recently reduced the conscription age from 27 to 25. Last week a new law came into effect requiring men to register their details with military recruitment centres. Many have done so. Others are hiding.Syrskyi said that without mobilisation he could not create new reserves and brigades, which were needed as Russia multiplied its own land forces. “It’s very important for us that all citizens of Ukraine fulfil their constitutional duty,” he said. He urged Ukrainians living outside their country to take part as well. “I hope that after victory they will be able to tell their children where they were. Where were you when all citizens of Ukraine were fighting in such fierce battles? That is the question.”
One initiative is taking shape in neighbouring Poland. Ukrainians abroad will soon be invited to join a new legion there. Training will take place in Poland itself, building trust between men and officers. Later the legion will transfer to the frontline. Syrskyi credited Zelenskiy with this “different approach”. One senses relations between them are harmonious, helped perhaps by the fact the commander has zero political ambitions and a lower profile than Zaluzhnyi. Syrskyi is celebrated in a cat meme, though.
Russia began its armed takeover of Ukraine in 2014, when it covertly grabbed parts of the Donetsk region. More than a decade on, there seems little likelihood Europe’s biggest war since 1945 will finish this year, or next, Donald Trump’s pledge to end the war in one day notwithstanding. Could Ukraine win? And if so, how long before victory? “I think you have to be very, very brave to say when. We do everything to make it happen. There is simply no more important task for us,” Syrskyi said, leaving the stage and striding back to work.
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24 Jul 2024, 21:47:35 @Lafter rakstīja:
Kāds to gūstekni manīja kolonā, kad viñi atpakaļ gāja? es nē
Kolumbiešu kaklasaiti uzdāvināja gūsteknim un tad atstāja. | | Offline | | |
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24 Jul 2024, 14:14:34 @Lafter rakstīja:
24 Jul 2024, 14:08:09 @Samsasi rakstīja:
Nu jopta, 3 gados jau nu būtu varējis izdomāt alternatīvas krievu gāzei.
Ko viņi var izdomāt? Neko.
Viņi jautāja EU un USA. Pieslēdzat pie jūsu trubām un viss.
Pārāk milzīgs projekts, pārāk lielas izmaksas. Kaut kad!
Kad tas ir - kaut kad?? Tās ir milzīgas izmaksas. Lūk prostitūta makrele varēja nevis kauties par nord stream trubām- bet padarīt tā vietā Ungāriju un to galu neatkarīgu no vates. Var gānīt Orbānu. Bet viņš pilda savu funkciju. Pārstāv savas valsts intereses- jā kaut šādi- jo citi variantu nav. Tik vienkārši. Nu protams putinu viņš arī mîl.
Ko dos izmest no EU? Nu izmetīs. Kas mainīsies? Šie pie vates aizies. Gruziju jau papisa visi bariņà slaidi
Orbānam atomspēkstacijas projekts iesala. Protams, varēja ar frančiem sadarboties, kuri to lietu māk, bet Orbānam nepatīk Makrons un tas gals tekoši uz viņu dirš  Nu un noteikti ar krieviem sanāktu lētāk. Gāze pats par sevi.
ES īpaši neinteresē Balkāni, tur Turcija saimnieko. Ja Turciju uzņemtu ES, kazahu, azeirbaidžāņu gāze lētāk plūstu uz Eiropu. Vai Brisele zin ES startēģiju 5-15-50 g. uz priekšu | | Offline | | |
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25 Jul 2024, 10:43:07 @bum_bumz rakstīja:
24 Jul 2024, 14:14:34 @Lafter rakstīja:
24 Jul 2024, 14:08:09 @Samsasi rakstīja:
Nu jopta, 3 gados jau nu būtu varējis izdomāt alternatīvas krievu gāzei.
Ko viņi var izdomāt? Neko.
Viņi jautāja EU un USA. Pieslēdzat pie jūsu trubām un viss.
Pārāk milzīgs projekts, pārāk lielas izmaksas. Kaut kad!
Kad tas ir - kaut kad?? Tās ir milzīgas izmaksas. Lūk prostitūta makrele varēja nevis kauties par nord stream trubām- bet padarīt tā vietā Ungāriju un to galu neatkarīgu no vates. Var gānīt Orbānu. Bet viņš pilda savu funkciju. Pārstāv savas valsts intereses- jā kaut šādi- jo citi variantu nav. Tik vienkārši. Nu protams putinu viņš arī mîl.
Ko dos izmest no EU? Nu izmetīs. Kas mainīsies? Šie pie vates aizies. Gruziju jau papisa visi bariņà slaidi
Orbānam atomspēkstacijas projekts iesala. Protams, varēja ar frančiem sadarboties, kuri to lietu māk, bet Orbānam nepatīk Makrons un tas gals tekoši uz viņu dirš Nu un noteikti ar krieviem sanāktu lētāk. Gāze pats par sevi.
ES īpaši neinteresē Balkāni, tur Turcija saimnieko. Ja Turciju uzņemtu ES, kazahu, azeirbaidžāņu gāze lētāk plūstu uz Eiropu. Vai Brisele zin ES startēģiju 5-15-50 g. uz priekšu
Ja EU gribētu gāzi, tad sen jau caur Turcijai pumpētu un tur nav svarīgi vai Turcija ir EU vai nav.
Vajag dārgākus resursus, lai iznīcinātu vidusslāni Eiropā.
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25 Jul 2024, 15:23:05 @Arsm3ns rakstīja:
Ņifiga, nafta beidzās 2010.gadā... vai nē?! Nezinu, bet tā vismaz solīja tie paši, kuri tagad sola, ka jūra un leduslāči mūs apēdīs, ja nesāksim elektroauto pirkt
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25 Jul 2024, 15:23:05 @Arsm3ns rakstīja:
Ņifiga, nafta beidzās 2010.gadā... vai nē?! Nezinu, bet tā vismaz solīja tie paši, kuri tagad sola, ka jūra un leduslāči mūs apēdīs, ja nesāksim elektroauto pirkt
Tie ir apdeitoti dati. 70.-tajos teica, ka max millenium izvilks
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“When it comes to equipment, there is a ratio of 1:2 or 1:3 in their favour,” he said. Since 2022 the number of Russian tanks has “doubled” – from 1,700 to 3,500. Artillery systems have tripled, and armoured personnel carriers gone up from 4,500 to 8,900. “The enemy has a significant advantage in force and resources,” Syrskyi said. “Therefore, for us, the issue of supply, the issue of quality, is really at the forefront.” | | Offline | | |
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