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| Fandulis | | Kopš: 29. Nov 2004
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| Ko tur var komentēt? Francijai un Vācijai nav kopēja robeža ar rusņu. Man šķiet ar to pietiek, pat tas nežurnālists no usas saprata, ka lisijs ir dolbajobs.
ps. Ja izdzēst S burtu aiz htppS, tad nevar sajāt tēmu, bet ja neizdzēš tad var. [ Šo ziņu laboja Fandulis, 01 Mar 2024, 21:25:01 ] |  Offline | | |
| e34 | |  Kopš: 11. Feb 2004
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01 Mar 2024, 21:22:06 @Fandulis rakstīja:
Ko tur var komentēt? Francijai un Vācijai nav kopēja robeža ar rusņu. Man šķiet ar to pietiek, pat tas nežurnālists no usas saprata, ka lisijs ir dolbajobs.
Pārfrāzēšu-Makrons ir mainījis publisko runu diametrāli, kāpēc viņš tā un šolcs nekā? | | Offline | | |
| abyss | |  Kopš: 26. Jun 2013
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01 Mar 2024, 21:27:14 @e34 rakstīja:
01 Mar 2024, 21:22:06 @Fandulis rakstīja:
Ko tur var komentēt? Francijai un Vācijai nav kopēja robeža ar rusņu. Man šķiet ar to pietiek, pat tas nežurnālists no usas saprata, ka lisijs ir dolbajobs.
Pārfrāzēšu-Makrons ir mainījis publisko runu diametrāli, kāpēc viņš tā un šolcs nekā?
Acīmredzami franči tur ir saskatījuši ko tādu, ko vācieši neredz.
Bet sen jau vajadzēja Eiropai palīdzdzēt dedzināt utainos  | | Offline | | |
| Indo | |  Kopš: 18. May 2002
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| F-35 Ukrainā jau kādu laiku (neilgu) lidinās, lai atklātu parašas PGA, un ne tikai. Kā Jums šāds pavērsiens?  Singapūras aizsardzības ministrs, iespējams, izpļāpājās. | | Offline | | |
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| Mani 2 centi par Makronu/Franciju:
1) varbūt viņiem beidzot apnika kā viņus krievi pazemo Āfrikā (Wagner&Co). Tur pēdējos gados frančus ir atspieduši no teikšanas pavisam.
2) iekšpolitiska cīņa par vēlētājiem (vajag parādīt aktīvu darbību, lai pingvīni apkārt saspiežas ap vadoni)
Man Makrons vienmēr licies tāds glums tips, kas bīda savas iekšējās intereses. Nu tāds, kas nebūs eiropas līderis bet paļausies plūsmai, kad citu variantu vairs nav.
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| No vienas puses skatoties, Makronam pēdējais termiņš, var gvelzt visu ko domā pats. No otras puses, lielākais atbalsts no EU ir Vācija, bet Šolcs nav tik emocionāls. Viņi var spēlēt lomas, tas ir iespējams. Pat gribētos cerēt, bet vai tā ir? | | Offline | | |
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01 Mar 2024, 21:52:36 @Indo rakstīja:
F-35 Ukrainā jau kādu laiku (neilgu) lidinās, lai atklātu parašas PGA, un ne tikai. Kā Jums šāds pavērsiens? Singapūras aizsardzības ministrs, iespējams, izpļāpājās.
es ar šo klausījos,neticu,domāju kārtējā pīle,bet kas zin,karā visādas dīvainas lietas mēdz notikt | | Offline | | |
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01 Mar 2024, 21:58:11 @elbruss rakstīja:
Mani 2 centi par Makronu/Franciju:
1) varbūt viņiem beidzot apnika kā viņus krievi pazemo Āfrikā (Wagner&Co). Tur pēdējos gados frančus ir atspieduši no teikšanas pavisam.
2) iekšpolitiska cīņa par vēlētājiem (vajag parādīt aktīvu darbību, lai pingvīni apkārt saspiežas ap vadoni)
Man Makrons vienmēr licies tāds glums tips, kas bīda savas iekšējās intereses. Nu tāds, kas nebūs eiropas līderis bet paļausies plūsmai, kad citu variantu vairs nav.
Ždanovs stāstija ka ukrainav nav izdevīgi ja iesaistās citas valsts armija,un ukraina diez vai tam piekristu | | Offline | | |
| DeeCee | |  Kopš: 29. Jun 2007
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01 Mar 2024, 21:09:59 @Lafter rakstīja:
Prasās kāds, kas vairāk politiku cērt- cik es sapratu
Taurus Ukrainai nespid un var aizmirst par tām raķetēm tuvākajā laikā. Paziņo Šolcs izraisot pie tam
Mazu diplomātisku skandālu.
Makrons vispār beztēmā herņu stumj- visi māzējas no viņa vałā metot 3 krustus.
https://twitter.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1763636405274661353
French special forces and other military units may be allowed to cross the Ukrainian border to pose a "strategic dilemma" to the Russian Federation, — Le Monde
France is currently considering such a possibility. The publication writes that their military presence could "protect some territories of Ukraine" and limit strikes by Russia.
It is also reported that Macron plans to gather the leaders of all parties in the French parliament on March 7 to discuss the situation in Ukraine.
ka tik lisais putina dirslaiža pats nelido, šķiet ka paliek samērā nepopulārs
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1763681399964393531
Bundestag Chairman of the European Committee, Anton Hofreiter, accused Scholz of lying about the need for Bundeswehr soldiers to deploy the Taurus and claimed that Scholz is driven by baseless fears and stuck to 20 years of wrong policy towards Russia.
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47th shredding Russians with a Bradley in the Avdiivka direction.
h/t Hidebot
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1763636278682165724[ Šo ziņu laboja DeeCee, 02 Mar 2024, 00:13:56 ] | | Offline | | |
| Lafter | | Kopš: 23. Sep 2007
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| Surprisingly Weak Ukrainian Defenses Help Russian Advance
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Laikam maksas raksts. Bildes nelādešu- čakars.
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Rudimentary Ukrainian trench lines outside Avdiivka, in an area claimed by Russia. Satellite image from Planet Labs, Feb. 26 By The New York Times
Russian forces continue to make small but rapid gains outside of the eastern Ukrainian city of Avdiivka, attributable in part to dwindling Ukrainian ammunition and declining Western aid.
But there’s another reason the Kremlin’s troops are advancing in the area: poor Ukrainian defenses.
Sparse, rudimentary trench lines populate the area west of Avdiivka that Ukraine is trying to defend, according to a Times review of imagery by Planet Labs, a commercial satellite company. These trench lines lack many of the additional fortifications that could help slow Russian tanks and help defend major roads and important terrain.
Avdiivka became the site of a fierce standoff over the last nine months, emerging as one of the bloodiest battles of the war. When Russia captured the city on Feb. 17, its first major gain since last May, the Ukrainian Army claimed it had secured defensive lines outside the city.
But Russian troops have captured three villages to the west of Avdiivka in the span of a week, and they are contesting at least one other.
Novobakhmutivka
Krasnohorivka
Russian-claimed
control
Held by Russia
Berdychi
Stepove
Semenivka
Ukrainian defenses
shown above
Orlivka
Avdiivka
Lastochkyne
Kladovysche
2 miles
Sources: Satellite image from Planet Labs; Russian-controlled territory (as of Feb. 29, 2024) from the Institute for the Study of War with American Enterprise Institute’s Critical Threats Project. By The New York Times
Satellite imagery at the scale shown here is widely available. U.S. officials said privately that it was concerning that Ukraine did not shore up its defensive lines early or well enough, and that it may now face the consequences as Russian units advance slowly but steadily beyond Avdiivka.
British military intelligence said on Thursday that Russian forces had advanced to about four miles from the center of Avdiivka in the past two weeks, a small but unusually rapid advance compared with previous offensive operations.
Ukrainian commanders have had ample time to prepare defenses outside Avdiivka. The area has been under attack since 2014, and Ukraine has had a tenuous hold on it since Russia launched its full-scale invasion two years ago.
But the Ukrainian defenses outside Avdiivka show rudimentary earthen fortifications, often with a connecting trench for infantry troops to reach firing positions closest to the enemy, but little else.
Stronger Russian Defenses
The lack of robust Ukrainian entrenchments in the area is especially glaring when compared with the formidable Russian defenses that thwarted Kyiv’s advances last summer during the Ukrainian counteroffensive, which ultimately failed.
Russian fortifications outside the southern village of Verbove, which Ukraine tried and failed to retake this fall, show a much different picture.
Russian-claimed
control
Pavlivs’ke
Novofedorivka
Russian
fortifications
Verbove
Russian defenses
shown below
Held by Russia
Romanivs’ke
2 miles
Sources: Satellite image from Planet Labs; Russian-controlled territory (as of Feb. 29, 2024) from the Institute for the Study of War with American Enterprise Institute’s Critical Threats Project; Russian fortifications based on data from Brady Africk. By The New York Times
Unlike the poorly fortified villages that Russian forces are trying to capture outside Avdiivka, Verbove has a concentric ring of fortifications. It starts with a trench wide enough to ensnare advancing tanks and armored vehicles, followed by a mesh of cement obstacles known as dragon’s teeth — also used to stop vehicles — and, finally, a sprawling trench for the infantry.
Satellite imagery from February shows the multilayered Russian defenses to the west of Verbove, with thousands of shell craters visible in the surrounding fields.
NORTH
Anti-tank ditch
A wide, deep
ditch that tanks
can’t cross
Dragon’s teeth
Rows of pyramidal
obstacles to stop tanks
Trench
Provides cover for
infantry to fight from
Satellite image from Planet Labs, Feb. 25 By The New York Times
‘A Very Costly Option’
There are many possible reasons for Ukraine’s apparent lack of defenses.
Ukrainian officials may have been too focused on offensive operations last year to dedicate the necessary resources to building the kind of multiple trenches and tank traps that Russian engineers built since late 2022 in the country’s south, the U.S. officials and military experts said.
Defenses Carved Into the Earth
Russia is building a vast network of trenches, traps and obstacles to slow Ukraine’s momentum. Will it work?
By Marco Hernandez and Josh Holder
Dec. 14, 2022
“Who cared and who considered it as an option — because it’s a very costly option — the construction of defensive lines? No one,” said Serhiy Hrabskyi, a retired Ukrainian Army colonel, noting that Ukraine had few resources to spare at the time.
There may have also been a psychological element at play, the U.S. officials said. If Ukrainian troops heavily mined certain areas to thwart Russian advances, it would be a tacit acknowledgement that they were unlikely to carry out offensive operations in the same area at a future date. They’d effectively be writing off that territory to the Russian military, the officials said.
While Moscow began building defensive lines in the south more than half a year before Kyiv’s counteroffensive, Ukraine appeared to have begun plans for new fortifications only three months ago, when government officials announced the creation of a working group to coordinate efforts between civilian and military authorities.
Responsibility for building the first line of defense would fall to the military units stationed in the area, the officials said, while the next defensive lines would be built by civilian authorities, with the help of private contractors. Denys Shmyhal, Ukraine’s prime minister, said that some 30 billion Ukrainian hryvnias, about $800 million, had been allocated for fortifications this year.
Areas in the eastern Donetsk region, where Avdiivka is, “will receive maximum attention,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said during a visit near the front line in late November, noting the “need to boost and accelerate the construction of structures.”
But Pasi Paroinen, an analyst from the Black Bird Group, which analyzes satellite imagery and social media content from the battlefield, said that “nothing significant has happened” since Mr. Zelensky’s visit.
Outside of Avdiivka, Mr. Paroinen added, “there are new positions being prepared, but they do not yet constitute a particularly formidable defensive line” and are not comparable in scale to Russia’s fortifications in the south.
The Ukrainian authorities have said they lack people able to carry out the construction work. In mid-January, local officials in the western Ivano-Frankivsk region said they were looking for 300 workers willing to help build fortifications in the Donetsk region, more than 500 miles to the east.
“We have a lack of engineering units. And even the units we have lack equipment,” Mr. Hrabskyi said. By comparison, he and Mr. Paroinen said, Russia had far more equipment, materials and experienced personnel when it built its defensive lines.
The absence of strong defensive lines outside of Avdiivka has been denounced in recent days by several Ukrainian journalists, in a rare show of public criticism of the military.
Delays in the construction of fortifications mean that Ukrainian troops may now be left to reinforce their defensive lines while under fire from the Russian Army, making the task exponentially more difficult.
Mr. Hrabskyi said Russia was currently preventing Ukrainian troops from shoring up their defenses by relentlessly bombarding them, including with powerful glide bombs carrying hundreds of tons of explosives that can smash through even well-prepared fortifications.
“The quality of these defensive lines cannot be good enough to resist massive bulldozer tactics by the Russian forces,” Mr. Hrabskyi said.
Oleksandra Mykolyshyn contributed reporting.[ Šo ziņu laboja Lafter, 02 Mar 2024, 11:37:36 ]
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Krievi raksta, ka A50Y +1
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| Pa šo gadu neko jaunu nepateikšu, krievs spiež uz apgādes ceļiem. Sev labāk, UA sliktāk. Plāns B savākt Slovjansku un Kramatorsku; bombīt un iet uz Mirnograd, Pokrovsku, noslēgt UA piegādes ceļus. Atspiest atpakaļ no ZAES un turēt bailēs Zaporižžu.
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