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Tēma: M3 E46 iegāde

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VLD
20. Apr 2007, 13:11 #41

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2007-04-20 13:08, Taspac rakstīja:
Eļļu Jums tur vispār nav gadienā jāmaina ik pa 6000 km ?


nee. M5 15000 km + regulaari jaapaarbauda liimenis
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Taspac
20. Apr 2007, 13:18 #42

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Tad jau vēl tā E34 M5 esot jāmaina ik pa 6 tkst.
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Murphy
20. Apr 2007, 13:22 #43

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2007-04-20 13:11, VLD rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:08, Taspac rakstīja:
Eļļu Jums tur vispār nav gadienā jāmaina ik pa 6000 km ?


nee. M5 15000 km + regulaari jaapaarbauda liimenis


Nu un uz katriem 1k km pa litram jāpielej
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rolis
20. Apr 2007, 13:23 #44

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M5 jau bezmaz vai kā divtaktnieks strādā lej tikai klāt
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VLD
20. Apr 2007, 13:24 #45

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2007-04-20 13:22, Murphy rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:11, VLD rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:08, Taspac rakstīja:
Eļļu Jums tur vispār nav gadienā jāmaina ik pa 6000 km ?


nee. M5 15000 km + regulaari jaapaarbauda liimenis


Nu un uz katriem 1k km pa litram jāpielej


??? man uz 6000 - 7000 km litrs aizgaaja. taa kaa taas visas runas ir konkreets BS !
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Aatoms
20. Apr 2007, 13:27 #46

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2007-04-20 13:03, edzulis rakstīja:

2007-04-20 11:39, Aatoms rakstīja:
Nekā personīga - bet paskatoties uz tiem M5 ko ikdienā manu, tā vien liekas ka katram otrajam 18 gadus saniegušajam ir vismaz pa vienam M5. Tajā pat laikā, reti kuru manu tiešām tādu lolotu un koptu! Savukārt M3 manu samērā reti un pārsvarā visi tādi perfecto.

Ieteikums sadabūt rokā cilvēku kas ikdienā brauc ar šo auto ir gana labs! Tikai manu paziņu lokā vairs nav neviena M3, bija - laikam tikai kādu mēnesi, tāpēc vai ir kādas idejas?


Kaut kādu fufeli tu te stāsti par to M5... Nezinu nevienu M3 īpašnieku kam būtu vairāk par 28-30 gadi, parasti 21-25. Tā kā ar vecumu te nav nekāda sakara


Nu tas par to vecumu - starpības jau nav gados, bet gan tajā kas galvā, un ir eksemplāri kam tur skvozņaks, bet zem pakaļas M5 - tas par dažiem šet neesošiem indivīdiem!
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edzulis
20. Apr 2007, 13:38 #47

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2007-04-20 13:11, VLD rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:08, Taspac rakstīja:
Eļļu Jums tur vispār nav gadienā jāmaina ik pa 6000 km ?


nee. M5 15000 km + regulaari jaapaarbauda liimenis


pēc papīriem 25 vai 30k km bija eļļas intervāls
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Aatoms
20. Apr 2007, 13:48 #48

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2007-04-20 13:38, edzulis rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:11, VLD rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:08, Taspac rakstīja:
Eļļu Jums tur vispār nav gadienā jāmaina ik pa 6000 km ?

TAd jau sanāk ka eļas maiņ gandrīz kopā ar saimnieka maiņu!
nee. M5 15000 km + regulaari jaapaarbauda liimenis


pēc papīriem 25 vai 30k km bija eļļas intervāls
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edzulis
20. Apr 2007, 13:51 #49

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2007-04-20 13:48, Aatoms rakstīja:



Ko tu ņirdz? Cik esmu pētijis M3 un M5 servisa grāmatiņas, visiem parasti tā arī pie 25-30k tā eļļa ir mainīta, ne ātrāk. Sintjetika...
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RaimisK
20. Apr 2007, 13:55 #50

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Automašīnai kuru ekspluatē slodzē nav gudri mainīt eļļu vairāk kā pēc 10K vai retāk kā reizi gadā. Atkarībā, kas pienāk ātrāk.[ This message was edited by: RaimisK on 2007-04-20 14:01 ]
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thomass
20. Apr 2007, 13:55 #51

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2007-04-20 13:51, edzulis rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:48, Aatoms rakstīja:



Ko tu ņirdz? Cik esmu pētijis M3 un M5 servisa grāmatiņas, visiem parasti tā arī pie 25-30k tā eļļa ir mainīta, ne ātrāk. Sintjetika...


taa nevar buuutt

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edzulis
20. Apr 2007, 14:09 #52

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Pizdec cik jūs gudri. Jūs laikam domājat, ka iekš BMW inženieri ir lohi?
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SEMIGALL
20. Apr 2007, 14:13 #53

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skatities vajag ellas intervalu ari vadoties pec auto ekspluatacijas

vel janem vera degvielas kvalitate

te ir Amerikas tirgum domato BMW modelu ellas intervali

GROUP 11 11 08 98 Woodcliff Lake, NJ October 2001
Engine Service Engineering
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. 11 08 98 dated June 2000 and replaces S.I.02 12 98 dated June 2000.
SUBJECT BMW Engine Oils
MODEL All
SITUATION Starting with the introduction of the 1999 3 Series (E46), BMW introduced an extended oil change
interval of approximately 15,000 miles depending on engine operating conditions.
The engine oil change interval of approximately 15,000 miles has been carried over to all 2001
BMW models. However, engine oil should be changed at least once a year. This revision (annual
oil change) is retroactive to earlier model years and is included in the BMW Maintenance Plan.
To coincide with the increased oil change interval, BMW also introduced "BMW High Performance
Synthetic Oil" SAE 5W-30.
BMW recommends the use of BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil SAE 5W-30 or Castrol RS
SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil also called Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil on all
models as outlined below whenever a service is necessary to avoid engine damage.
Synthetic Engine Oil Recommendations
Model / Engine Production Date Engine Oil
E39 M5 / S62 Up to 3/2000 Castrol RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil
also called Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE
10W-60 Synthetic Oil
E39 M5 / S62
E52 Z8 / S62 From 3/2000 BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil SAE
5W-30
Or
Castrol RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil also
called
Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthe E46 M3 / S54 All Castrol RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil also
called
E36 M roadster, Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthetic M coupe / S54 Oil
All other current From 1999 model BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil SAE
SI BMW Engine Oils BMW AG - TIS 29.11.2002 20:53
Issue status (10/2002) Valid only until next CD is issued Copyright Page - 1 -
models / engines year - vehicles with 5W-30.
not listed above. extended oil change
intervals of approximately
15,000 miles.
Synthetic Engine Oil Benefits
BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil SAE 5W-30 and Castrol RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil also
called Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil offers several benefits over conventional
mineral based oils.
These oils have been durability tested on BMW engines and supply superior lubrication under all
operating conditions and over the extended BMW oil change intervals.
-- Superior thermal stability
The synthetic based oil resists thickening at very low ambient temperatures providing improved
flow, lubrication and less internal engine resistance during cold starts.
Under high heat conditions, the oil resists thermal breakdown/shearing which causes a loss of
lubrication quality with conventional oils.
Using BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil eliminates the need for seasonal oil changes since it
covers all ambient temperature ranges.
-- Superior lubrication throughout the life of the oil
Compared to conventional engine oils, BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil is better able to keep
engine combustion contaminants in suspense and is less susceptible to the harmful effects of
oxidation.
The oil resists sludge build up thus allowing extended oil change intervals. Synthetic based oils also
have a lower volatility which makes them less susceptible to evaporation thereby reducing oil
consumption.
1999 Model Year and Later Oil Recommendation
BMW High Performance Synthetic oil must be used on all 1999 and later BMW vehicles which
have oil change intervals of approximately 15,000 miles (except M5 produced up to 3/00 and E46
M3, E36 M roadster and M coupe with S54 engines) as stated in the owners manual. In addition,
there is a label affixed to the engine cover which states the oil specifications and refers to the BMW
website (www.bmwusa.com) and toll free number (1-800-831-1117) for additional information.
M5 and Z8 Oil Recommendation
M5 (S62 engine) produced up to 3/00:
-- The M5 up to 3/00 production requires a specially formulated synthetic engine oil - Castrol
Formula RS SAE 10W-60 or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 and is the only approved
oil for this engine.
-- Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthetic Oil must be used on M5 models produced up to 3/00 whenever a service is
SI BMW Engine Oils BMW AG - TIS 29.11.2002 20:53
Issue status (10/2002) Valid only until next CD is issued Copyright Page - 2 -
necessary to avoid engine damage and is available under BMW part number 07 51 0 009
420 (1 liter bottle).
Notes: For logistical reasons Castrol Formula SAE RS 10W-60 Synthetic Oil has been renamed
and is now called Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil. Since the formulation has
remained the same it is sold under the same BMW part number 07 51 0 009 420.
Only if a customer needs to top up oil between oil changes and Castrol Formula RS 10W-60
Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil is not available is it permissible
to use synthetic engine oils with a lower viscosity which conform to the API classification SH or
higher.
However engine oil consumption will increase when Castrol Formula RS 10W-60 Synthetic Oil or
Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic is diluted (topped up with other low viscosity
synthetic engine oils).
M5 (S62 engine) produced from 3/00 and all Z8:
-- The S62 engine incorporates redesigned piston rings from 3/00 which permit the use of BMW
High Performance Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 5W-30.
-- The recommended engine oil for all Z8 vehicles and M5 vehicles (produced from 3/00) is
BMW High Performance Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 5W-30.
Note: Refer to Service Information bulletin 11 04 00 for S62 engine oil level checking procedure.
E46 M3, M roadster, M coupe with S54 engines - Oil Recommendations
-- All M models with the S54 engines require the use of Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60
Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil and is the only approved
oil for this engine.
-- Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthetic Oil must be used on E46 M3, E36 M roadster and M coupe with S54 engines
whenever a service is necessary to avoid engine damage and is available under BMW part
number 07 51 0 009 420 (1 liter bottle).
Notes: For logistical reasons Castrol Formula SAE RS 10W-60 Synthetic Oil has been renamed
and is now called Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil. Since the formulation has
remained the same it is sold under the same BMW part number 07 51 0 009 420.
Only if a customer needs to top up oil between oil changes and Castrol Formula RS 10W-60
Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil is not available is it permissible
to use synthetic engine oils with a lower viscosity which conform to the API classification SH or
higher.
However engine oil consumption will increase when Castrol Formula RS 10W-60 Synthetic Oil or
Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60 Synthetic is diluted (topped up with other low viscosity
synthetic engine oils).
Note: Refer to Service Information bulletin 11 04 00 for S54 engine oil level checking procedure.
SI BMW Engine Oils BMW AG - TIS 29.11.2002 20:53
Issue status (10/2002) Valid only until next CD is issued Copyright Page - 3 -
1998 Model Year and Earlier Oil Recommendation
BMW High Performance Synthetic engine oil may also be used on earlier BMW models.
BMW High Performance Synthetic engine oil is included and may be claimed on all vehicles
covered under the BMW Maintenance Plan.
BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil will replace BMW approved Special Oils.
The oil change intervals should not be extended due to the greater durability of a fully synthetic
engine oil. The engine oil and filter should always be changed as per the vehicle’s Service Indicator
when the "Oil Service" or the "Inspection" display appears regardless of the type of oil being used.
BMW mineral based High Performance engine oil is also offered for model year 1998 and earlier
BMW models. However, for reliable engine performance in all temperature ranges mineral based
engine oil viscosity must be matched to the temperature range at which the vehicle will be
operated. See the Temperature - Viscosity chart in the Owners Manual or Operating Fluids Manual
for further information.
Engine Oil Additives
The use of engine oil additives is not recommended and not necessary on BMW engines. Instead,
it is mandatory to use BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil in 1999 model year and later BMW
models, Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 Synthetic Oil or Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthetic Oil in M5 S62 models produced up to 3/00 and E46 M3, E36 M roadster and M coupe
with S54 engines. Also recommended is the use of either BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil,
BMW High Performance Mineral Oil or one of today’s highly advanced brand name lubricating oils
conforming to API classification SH or higher in 1998 and earlier BMW models.
PARTS INFORMATION As part of the BMW global alliance with CASTROL we are changing our private label engine oil
supplier for both mineral and synthetic engine oils. As part of this change, the synthetic engine oil
will now be a SAE 5W-30 oil which covers the same temperature range as the SAE 5W-40
synthetic engine oil.
BMW engine oils are available under the following part numbers:
Part Number Description Quantity
07 51 0 017 866 BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil 1 quart bottle (minimum
SAE 5W-30 shipping quantity 12 quarts)
07 51 0 017 954 BMW High Performance Synthetic Oil 1 quart bulk (minimum shipping
SAE 5W-30 quantity four - 55 gallon drums)
07 51 0 009 420 Castrol Formula RS SAE 10W-60 1 liter (1.06 quart) bottle
Synthetic Oil (minimum shipping quantity
or 12 liters)
Castrol TWS Motorsport SAE 10W-60
Synthetic Oil
07 51 0 017 868 BMW High Performance Mineral Base 1 quart bottle (minimum
Oil SAE 15W-40 shipping quantity 12 quarts)
WARRANTY
SI BMW Engine Oils BMW AG - TIS 29.11.2002 20:53
Issue status (10/2002) Valid only until next CD is issued Copyright Page - 4 -
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RaimisK
20. Apr 2007, 14:15 #54

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Gan jau, ka nav lohi. Tikai grib samazināt TCO mašīnai garantijas laikā.
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SEMIGALL
20. Apr 2007, 14:17 #55

Kopš: 10. Apr 2005

No: Rīga

Ziņojumi: 4693

Braucu ar: 3.2DID


isak sakot apmeram 15’000 judzes S54 motoram

BMW High Performance Synthetic oil must be used on all 1999 and later BMW vehicles which
have oil change intervals of approximately 15,000 miles (except M5 produced up to 3/00 and E46
M3, E36 M roadster and M coupe with S54 engines) as stated in the owners manual. In addition,
there is a label affixed to the engine cover which states the oil specifications and refers to the BMW
website (www.bmwusa.com) and toll free number (1-800-831-1117) for additional information.
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SEMIGALL
20. Apr 2007, 14:19 #56

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No: Rīga

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Braucu ar: 3.2DID

vadaties pec si punkta un miers

However, engine oil should be changed at least once a year
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Aatoms
20. Apr 2007, 14:26 #57

Kopš: 16. Jan 2006

No: Jelgava

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Braucu ar: Viss kas pa rokai gadās! Pamatā Leon Cupra R!


2007-04-20 13:51, edzulis rakstīja:

2007-04-20 13:48, Aatoms rakstīja:



Ko tu ņirdz? Cik esmu pētijis M3 un M5 servisa grāmatiņas, visiem parasti tā arī pie 25-30k tā eļļa ir mainīta, ne ātrāk. Sintjetika...


Sorry vecīt, nu nebija ņirgšana par tevis teikto - tur vienkārši iztrūka teksts - tur bija jābūt rakstītam ka tad sanāk ka eļļa mainās kopā ar saimnieku!

Nepastrīdu to kas rakstīts papīros, bet kā jau kāds minēja - ir jau arī no svara materiālu kvalitāte, un teiksim tā - ja eļas maiņa izmaksā filtra cenu, tad kāpēc gan to nedarīt biežāk? Vai ne?
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Rakstnieks
20. Apr 2007, 15:23 #58

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2007-04-20 13:04, edzulis rakstīja:
Nehuj taupīt uz eļļas maiņām. Tas attiecas gan uz Vanosu (darbojas caur eļļu) gan klaņiem. Eļļa ir pats galvenais!


Edgar, es domāju,ka Tu zini cik pie mums Lv esošajiem M ir izlīduši klaņi..... Un tu gribi teikt,ka to īpašnieki ir kapeikpisēji un taupa uz eļļu???
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edijzz
20. Apr 2007, 15:46 #59

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2007-04-20 13:03, thomass rakstīja:

2007-04-20 10:01, Aatoms rakstīja:
Nu zin kā, atļauties jau vienmēr var par maz! Nu tā ideja ir tāda - cipars varētu sastādīt no 25 līdz 28 k. EUR!

pareizi pareizi vaig jelgavaa arii kaadu m3


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GirtzB
20. Apr 2007, 15:54 #60

Kopš: 15. May 2002

No: Rīga

Ziņojumi: 22123

Braucu ar: 2x(R6+LSD)

pastniek imho tie kuriem izlīdz klaņi bija nelaimgā 2001-2002 gada partija
eļļas maiņas intervāli ir noteikti 25k km, bet neviens neliedz mainīt ik pa 10k km.

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